A Tough Standard For Human Behavior

The Bible teaches that sex is for marriage and that marriage unites the sexes. These things are taught throughout Scripture, as something that applies to all people at all times, rather than something that applies to a specific group of people or for a specific period of time. This has many implications for human sexuality, at least for those who strive to follow Him.

Just one of the implications is that engaging in sex-like behavior with someone of the same sex is sinful.

For years, homosexuality advocates have taken the "don't believe the Bible" approach or "the Bible is outdated" approach for trying to reconcile homosexual behavior with Christianity, or at least neutralize Christian opposition to homosexual behavior.

Lately, homosexuality advocates have tried to say that the Bible doesn't really teach that homosexual behavior is sinful.

As wiser people than me noted even before the Internet came into general public use, a lie can travel halfway around the world before truth can get its boots on.

As such, refuting some of the recent attacks on the traditional understanding of Biblical teachings on sexuality can take a long time. With that, I point you to this:

“Gay Christianity” Refuted!

The complete response to Matthew Vines is now available as a single program. Yes its five hours and nine minutes long, (72meg in size), but the world needs to hear this message. We believe this so much that we have decided to make this publicly available to be distributed for free. Share it with your friends and relatives. We’ve titled it “Gay Christianity” Refuted and only ask that you not change it or sell it. All fair use rules apply for criticism too.

You can play it here or right click and download it. All that we ask is that if you are edified by it please consider supporting this work on a regular basis. There is more where that came from Lord willing.

"Gay Christianity" Refuted by James White is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License Based on a work at aomin.org.

Good churches will welcome people who have identified themselves as homosexuals. However, a good church will not abandon the Biblical standard for human sexuality for the sake of the feelings of anyone who wants to engage in sex or sex-like behavior with someone who isn't their spouse in the Biblical sense.

 

I listened to the entire file of James White utterly refuting what Matthew Vines taught. Vines repeatedly appealed to emotion, and that might be effective for people who do not think critically and do not have a good understanding of the Bible, but it doesn't make what Matthew Vines taught true. It isn't.

 

Sex is for marriage. Marriage unites the sexes. That is the consistent Biblical teaching.

 

I find it interesting that people who claim:

 

1) To follow Jesus Christ as omniscient & omnipotent Lord and Savior

2) Being "gay" is a God-ordained, God-created identity, a sexual orientation that is every bit a part of someone and every bit morally neutral as having blue eyes

3) That Christians have unjustly condemned all homosexual behavior based on misreading or erroneously being selective in their application of the Bible

...are unable to point to a single, clear, Bible passage or reliable external source documenting that Jesus cleared up typical misunderstandings or animosity of his day about sexual orientation or same-sex relationships. Surely, an omniscient & omnipotent Jesus could have said something like, "You know, grooms don't have to marry brides. They can marry other grooms, if that is the desire of their heart. This is also very good." And He could have seen to it that it was recorded and preserved in the Bible, and thus prevented all sorts of trouble endured by people.

Instead, Jesus repeatedly affirmed the Scripture and, unlike with other things, is never recorded as having cleared up misconceptions about sex being for marriage and marriage uniting the sexes.

Matthew Vines repeatedly referred to "loving" lifelong monogamous same-sex relationships. By his own logic, he is attacking nonmonogamous people, including many people who identify as "gay Christians", in a way he chastises others for doing in his very message.

There is no way around it, folks. You do have the freedom to not follow Christ. You do not have the authority to change what God has taught about marriage and sexuality. Yeah, that can feel like a bummer sometimes. I didn't always live by the Biblical teaching myself. Plenty of churches would have accepted my fornication. That doesn't make fornication right.

 

UPDATE:

Jesus, Scripture, and the Myth of New Knowledge Arguments about Homosexual Unions
 

(Follow that link to watch at 76 minute video.

 

Dr. Gagnon will address the myth that we have radically new knowledge today about homosexuality that allows us to discount the biblical witness on homosexual practice or to claim its affirmation of loving homosexual relationships. Join FRC as Dr. Gagnon clearly presents a Scriptural perspective on today's most hotly contested moral debate: human sexuality.

Robert A. J. Gagnon is Associate Professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. He has a B.A. degree from Dartmouth College, an M.T.S. from Harvard Divinity School, and a Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is a member both of the Society of Biblical Literature and of the Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas [Society of New Testament Studies]. He is also an ordained elder at a Presbyterian Church (USA) in Pittsburgh. He is the author of The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermeneutics; co-author (with Dan O. Via) of Homosexuality and the Bible: Two Views; and, as a service to the church, provides a large amount of free material on the web dealing with Scripture and homosexuality.

What Is Marriage?

My continued thanks to @SearchCz @ActivistDalek @NotGayDalek on their patience and my apologies for not replying more quickly.

@SearchCz commented on this previous entry. You can see his comments at the bottom of the link.

Let me try to sort out this confusion re: *throuples*, and why marriage law should only apply to couples. This is LESS a question of whether or not *throuples* have rights, and MORE a question of what marriage is and isn't (particularly based on the public's interest in the institution).
 
You've repeatedly pointed out how children are an integral part of our understanding of what marriage is - particularly the public interest in how children are raised. This is YOUR argument, that raising children has something to do with marriage.

 The common argument, to which I subscribe, is that the state has more of an interest in bride+groom unions because as a group, as a rule, and in general, sex-integrated unions are the kind of pairing that naturally create new dependent citizens, even if not all do. Throupling is either ineffective (only one sex) or superfluous (only one member of each sex is needed). However, if state marriage licensing is not about society’s interest in integrating the sexes and raising the next generation, but instead about the attractions of adults, then it doesn't matter what kind of parents throuples make. I have heard many times in the fight for "marriage equality" (perhaps not from @SearchCz – I don’t recall) that "marriage isn't about children" and "They are consenting adults, how does it hurt anybody?" If those statements are true, they apply to throuples as well.

#1) We have evidence showing that same-sex parents work out as well (or better) for kids as opposite-sex parents.

No, we don’t. There has been no study indicating this done with a large enough sample size comparing apple to apples, which in this case would mean things like comparing adoptive same-sex couples with adoptive both-sexes couples with similar socio-economic status, etc. and same-sex couples where one adult is a biological parent and the child was conceived intentionally with both-sexes couples of the same situation.

However, it shouldn't take a study. Some things should be obvious, such as "mothers and fathers are different" and all other things being equal, a child benefits from having both raising them.

Likewise marriage. It is a *thing* to which we have a right. So when we start talking about whether or not *throuples* have a "right" to marriage, we can't disregard what that marriage *thing* is and isn't. Legally, marriage is reciprocally exclusive when considering shared property, pensions, authority to make decisions for the other. ( These are some of the things a COUPLE can do that a *THROUPLE* cannot )

However, people can legally marry and have paperwork (prenuptial agreements and the like) that state otherwise.

You and I agree that marriage is something and not other things. We disagree on where there demarcation is. I have maintained that "the right to marry" in a legal and social sense has always been about an individual uniting with someone of the other sex, so that saying a man has a right to marry a man makes as much sense is saying a man has a right to a square circle. Yes, I think a man has a right to freedom of association, which includes sharing his life with another man in whatever form they want, but whatever it is, it isn't marriage. This, however, strays from the central issue at hand about state licensing.

And, if I can offer another analogy: consider a two-seater sports car. Does a *throuple* have a "right" to drive one? It doesn't matter, that two-seater is made to safely accommodate two people and NOT three or more. (In fact, only one person at a time can drive it).

Imagine that sports car is constructed around the body configurations of one man and one woman so that two men couldn't fit or two women couldn't fit. You want the car reconfigured. Why can't it be reconfigured in a way that allows more people?

But same-sex couples don't require that any new protections be invented, only that they have access to the existing protections available to others.

There was never a right to get a marriage license with someone of the same sex before – not for anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation. Isn't that a new protection? When women were no longer denied their right to vote, it was to vote just like men did. Voting itself was not changed to accommodate women.

Can you explain why the state's interest in how children are raised ought to be concerned with whether or not the adults in question produced the children in question? Keep in mind that the state ALREADY freely sanctions 2nd marriages in which children will be raised by a biological parent and a step-parent.

Parents are naturally in possession of their biological children. If they neglect/abandon those children, they are prosecuted. If they want to raise their children but are unfit, the state has to have justification and follow procedures to remove the children from their custody. If the parents want to give their children away, they have to do so through formal adoption (although some places allow newborns to be "safely surrendered"). In the event of a divorce or other break-up, parental rights are sorted out by legal authorities. Adopting official public policy that logically indicates that marriage, reproduction, and parenting are not related or diminishes the connection between them carries certain risks. For example, diminishing the general connection between parent and biological child as a legal consideration.

Clearly, men and women are going to continue to get together and make babies. Will our public policies encourage of discourage them from doing so within marriage and raising those children together?

Yes, there are single parent situations, adoptions, and stepparent situations, but what is the natural situation, and what is best? I grew up with my genes and certain other inherited biological elements. It is of some benefit for my son to grow up with me for that reason alone. I've been there, done that. There are some awesome stepparents out there, and God bless them, but statistically speaking, minor children are better off with their biological parents together, and if that isn't going to happen, without their parents bringing their new lovers into (and often out of) the child's life until the child is grown.

When it comes to parenting, public policy should encourage men and women marry in order to have and raise children. Yes, there will be other situations, but what should be encouraged?

Who pressured Eich to resign? on Life on Twitter

I saw a lot of noise being made by marriage neutering advocates targeting Mozilla because of Eich. Clearly, Mozilla was going to be the target of organized actions to ruin the business.

On to @NotGayDalek:

1.) BRIDELESS AND GROOMLESS MARRIAGES ARE NOT PROPOSED. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BRIDE, GROOM OR BOTH

A bride is a woman, a groom is a man. So yes, without both a man and a woman, one is missing.

2.) “THROUPLES” IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT: A LOGICAL FALLACY, AND FEAR MONGERING

Rather than make a transcript, I’ll note that this is addressed here.

 3.) THE ONLY “UNDUE DISENFRANCHISEMENT” THAT IS OCCURRING IS BANNING PEOPLE FROM MARRIAGE.

The disenfranchisement is that the licenses are issued on behalf of the people, and in many places, the people have voted to retain the bride+groom requirement in that licensing, only to have judges, often federal judges (despite SCOTUS indicating it was a state matter) overturn their votes. The bride+groom requirement allows access to everyone, both men and women, and as such does not violate the Constitution, despite creative pronouncements to the contrary. Notice that different states have different restrictions on the ages of the individuals and how closely they can be related, so states are allowed to implement different restrictions even though such restrictions are based on personal characteristics with which the individuals were born. In other words, even though they were "born that way" they are still denied access to getting a marriage license together.

Why Do I Care?

Before I was so rudely interrupted by life, I was engaged in a talk on Twitter about neutering marriage. It originated with me tweeting out links to columns and the like surrounding the pressuring of Eich to leave Mozilla (the company behind Firefox) because he supported Proposition 8, a duly adopted (and popularly approved) amendment to the California constitution that restricted state marriage licenses to marriage. My tweeting of those columns resulted in many responses from some people on Twitter, and the talk ensued. A longtime reader/commenter of this blog and another to which I've contributed joined in with his thoughtful comments, and plenty of people came and went, some vulgar and trying to take the conversations on tangents, others more focused and civil.

The bulk of the conversation has not been about Eich, but about whether or not state marriage licenses should be neutered so that brideless and groomless couples also get those licenses.

I don't think there is any resolving the conflict, because the basis of my position is that marriage is inherently about uniting the sexes and that state governments have an interest in distinguishing marriage via licensing and the laws that apply to such licensed marriage, and their position appears to be that brideless and groomless unions of two (but not more) people should be licensed as marriages and treated exactly the same as bride+groom unions. For a dialogues to have any meaning, there has to be an agreement on something to begin with. We don't even agree on what rights are. Regardless, although Twitter can accommodate bumper sticker slogans, these topics deserve more than 140 characters.

Cracking the Republican Code

It’s time to come clean. People like Chris Matthews and critics of this blog are on to us, so there’s no point trying to disguise our true intentions. I’m ‘fessing up.

We Republicans have been talking in code.

Here is your guide to our nefarious secret code, which some bloggers have apparently figured out already.

Coded statement: "Well, [insert first name of question-asker here]…"
Real meaning: I completely dismiss you and everyone of your race, you subhumans

"14-year-olds should be able to earn money cleaning their schools for an hour or two"
I want six-year-olds to be forced to work for 16 hours per day, 365 days per year in coal mines without safety equipment or standards, for pennies a day.

"welfare", "food stamps", "felons"
All black people are lazy criminals

"It is better for people to have the opportunity to get jobs rather than be handed food stamps."
I need slaves for my plantation.

"Obama"
All black people

"I'm less than completely satisfied with President Obama."
I hate him because he's black. I also believe he's a commie Muslim Kenyan.

"free enterprise"
A return to race-based slavery

"Tenth Amendment"
A return to race-based slavery

"property rights"
I want to own black people and women.

"Second Amendment"
I want to be able to shoot at my will anyone who isn’t a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group, but especially black people.

"Constitutional"
Only what property-owning, healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group want.

"voter fraud"
When anyone votes who isn't a healthy, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age.

"Obamacare"
I want everyone to die who isn't a heathy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age… painfully, after going bankrupt.

"Social Security is unsustainable without some changes."
I really, really want old people to be poor, starving, miserable, sick, and then die early.

"values”
Hating everyone who isn't a virgin-or-married, healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"morality"
Hating everyone who isn't a virgin-or-married, healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"American exceptionalism"
There is nothing good in the world that hasn't been provided by a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"restoring American greatness"
Stealing from, torturing, and killing everyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"I love this country!"
I only love healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group, and I want everyone else to die… painfully.

"God Bless America!"
I'm a dominionist Christianist theocrat who wants all people who aren't healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group to die… painfully, so that everyone remaining can be forced to live under a Christian equivalent to Sharia law.

"I want everyone to succeed."
I want everyone who is a healthy, American, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group to own slaves.

"We shouldn't raise taxes on anyone."
I want all people who aren't healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group to be poor, starving, homeless, living in a toxic waste dump, without fire protection, health care, or education, only to die… painfully.

"Burdensome regulations"
I want total anarchy so I can steal from, torture, and kill everyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"I'm not convinced that man-made global warming is a serious enough threat that can be effectively alleviated if we simply cripple the progress of human civilization with confiscation and redistribution of private earnings and totalitarian intrusion into private life."
I don't believe in proven, settled, scientific fact and I want everyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group to be poor, starving, homeless, living in a toxic waste dump, without fire protection, health care, or education, only to die… painfully.

"I'm not convinced that all of the biological diversity and symbiosis, beautiful nature, human capabilities, and vast universe we see are the result of nothing more than purposeless, undirected, random physical forces that emerged from nothing, caused by nothing."
I don't believe in proven, settled, scientific fact and will use a Ouija board to make my decisions.

"I don't believe federal tax dollars should fund art, especially art that is highly offensive to a large number of taxpayers."
I want to ban all art.

"school vouchers"
I want to funnel any money anyone spends on education to flat-Earth religious groups who want to kill anyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman."
The day I get into office, we're going to literally roast all gays and lesbians over open fires, and then we're going to nullify any interracial marriages that have ever existed.

"All other things being equal, I believe a married man and woman should get preference in adoptions."
The day I get into office, we’re going to literally roast all gays and lesbians over open fires, and then we're going to nullify any interracial marriages that have ever existed. And THEN all single parents are going to be hanged.

"I'm not convinced homosexual behavior is healthy."
I'm gay and in the closet.

"I wouldn't want to receive anal sex from ten men in one session."
I'm gay and in the closet AND I want to literally roast all gays and lesbians over open fires.

"I don't think taxpayers should be paying for a woman's fifth late-term partial-birth abortion."
I want all women to be raped by their father, uncle, or brother until they experience a life-threatening pregnancy, and the I want them forced to raise the resulting children themselves, and then I want the women tortured and killed in a back alley.

"I support the death penalty."
I want all people who aren't healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group to die… painfully.

"Foreign terrorists should be punished as enemies of the state, rather than treating them like domestic citizen criminals."
I'm Islamophobic and I want all people who aren't healthy American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group to die… painfully.

"We have to defend our borders and have a good immigration policy and enforce that policy."
I want to round up everyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group and kill them, first in America and then everywhere else in the world.

"I'm against race-based quotas"
I want to round up everyone who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian men of a certain age group and kill them.

"Activist judges"
Any judge who isn't a healthy, American, rich, white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian man of a certain age group.

Now some of my fellow Republicans will claim to sincerely believe that every human being has inherent worth and certain rights and that limiting government helps to protect those rights, but isn't it better to ignore any argument they might offer by calling them bigots?

At least one of my critics is bound to miss that this is a sarcastic post.

Life on Twitter

Folks like @urbaurba @ACTIVISTDALEK @NotGayDalek @proudliberalmom are getting hysterical on Twitter, joining longtime debater @SearchCz because I said someone should not be pressured to leave their tech job because they supported a mainstream position on marriage laws.

The latest round of tweets:

Activist Dalek @ACTIVISTDALEK
YOU ARE HILARIOUS. DO YOU THINK REPEATING YOURSELF IN A BLOG POST MAKES YOU MORE CORRECT OR IS CHANGING ANYONE'S MINDS? #LULZ

I don't know why this person thinks my blog postings have any less validity than their own tweets. Statements are either true or not, regardless of who says them or how.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
If you are going to claim something is harmful, the burden of proof is on you…
…and saying "It's basic biology" isn't proof of anything.

That was in response to me noting that children are best off with a married mother & father. Marc, apparently, is claiming that men bring nothing to personal relationships that women can't bring, and vice-versa. I'd be worried if Marc was my partner.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba 17h
Same sex couples are the most INTENTIONAL parents.

Yes, in many cases they are, that is why when someone claims to have a study saying that motherless or fatherless parenting is just as good or even better than mother+father parenting, it isn't valid if the studies didn't compare similarly situated mother+father families, meaning the parents INTENTIONALLY became parents. That was my point.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
And the most famous anti same sex parenting study out there, Regnerus…

I never brought up that study. Arguing studies on Twitter is pointless. Marriage neutering advocates like this would never accept any study that shows children are best off with mother+father, and even if they did, would they let that stop their demand for "equality" anyway? Let's get real.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
And obviously, marriage doesn't have to involve children.

I never said it did.

When I said "Constitution allows treating different kinds of associations differently." This was the response:

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
Like interracial marriage, master-slave associations?

Interracial marriage is not a different kind of association. Skin color is irrelevant to marriage, sex is not.

When I wrote "Children will have to deal with both sexes. They are best off being raised by both." This was the response:

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
And you are entitled to your opinion, fortunately actual scientific research doesn't agree.

There is no credible research that says otherwise. It is amazing how a political or personal agenda will allow someone to deny basic reality about biology. Meanwhile, there are many people who identify as gay or lesbian who can see this obvious truth, because they haven't allowed themselves to be usurped into a Leftist agenda.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
Except when it's two women or two men who want to be married? That's not equal right.

Man+woman = has produced 7 billion currently operating units. Man+man = 0. Woman+woman = 0. Obviously they are different.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
Which 'pro-gay cultures' are you referring to?

That was in response to me pointing out that even in pro-gay cultures, marriage was understood to unite the sexes. Ancient Greece, for one.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
Are people who (gasp!) never want kids allowed to marry?

Are they allowed to get a state marriage license? Yes, because the state needn't pry into their intent. The state already has birth certificates, which still indicate male or female, though I'm sure the wacky gender confusion activists will attack that before too long. Anyway, one male + one female - that requirement can be determined to have been met by state documents. No need to question them about their sexual likes and dislikes, their medical condition, or their intention. Oh, and by the way, many people who say they never wants kids end up having them later, even if by "accident" (which NEVER happens without both a man and a woman - go back to take basic biology courses if you are confused about that.)

SearchCz @SearchCz
questioning things once accepted wholesale=universally praiseworthy

Questioning is one thing. Denying basic biology is another.

SearchCz @SearchCz
licenses issued on behalf of the entire state, not just a sampling of voters.

State governments represent the governed. Laws are enacted either through legislative representatives or direct vote of the people. The people ARE allowed to set limits on marriage licenses. That is why, in some states, first cousins can get a marriage license and in other states they can't, even if they are members of a suspect class/historically oppressed minority.

Marc Abrams @urbaurba
And rights based on the US Constitution, not popular opinion, the bible or any other religious text.

The people who wrote and adopted the Constitution, including every Amendment, understood marriage as something uniting the sexes. The people who wrote the 14th Amendment would laugh you out the door if you said it required the state to license a brideless "marriage".

SearchCz @SearchCz
the encouragement to marry, then parent, remains with marriage equality

It's not marriage equality, but neutering marriage enshrines in public policy that marriage laws are about the subjective feelings of people, not about children. That is going to have an impact on law and culture. Children will lose.

I wrote "But we're talking public policy applied to KINDS of associations." To which came the response…

SearchCz @SearchCz 16h
like the kind that joins without any chance of reproducing?

Man+woman is the reproductive kind, even if not all can or will. Absent a man, or absent a woman, it isn't the reproductive kind.

I've gone over all of these things in depth here:
http://playfulwalrus.blogspot.com/p/same-sex-marriage-reviewing-basics.html
http://playfulwalrus.blogspot.com/search/label/marriage%20neutering

David Benkof Continues to Deliver

People like Camille Paglia and David Benkof can tell you what the "homosexual community" is like from the inside. Benkof has long provided thoughtful material when it comes to public policy on things like marriage and family, and homosexuality as an identity.

For several years, Benkof had something online that I found here (bugs in the text... I don't know what to do about them):

Evangelical Christians are Ignorant, Uneducated, and Illogical

Conservative or evangelical Christians are anti-science, stupid, hateful hypocrites. The evangelical community consists of liars and the deluded, mindless followers of the liars who deny science.

That's the message I see day in and day out in everything from Facebook updates from people who are listed as my friends to tweets and television broadcasts from celebrities such as Bill Maher, and so many others.

Consider this recent tweet from actor Michael McKean (@MJMcKean) to film critic Roger Ebert:

RT @ebertchicago Evangelical professors in trouble for doubting Adam and Eve//"evangelical think tank"=priceless!

The idea of an evangelical think tank is funny? I think it is safe to say McKean hasn't bothered to attend a conference of the Evangelical Theological Society or the Evangelical Philosophical Society, or check out Glenn M. Miller's Christian Think Tank.

Now, I might have the same opinions and so rudely state them, complete with sarcasm and derision and mocking of others, if I based my opinions on what I was told by sources with a demonstrable anti-evangelical bias such as the New York Times, Newsweek, Time, on CNN, MSNBC, Leftist books, radio and websites, depictions in primtetime television, and if my main exposure to "evangelicals" consisted of the likes of some of the more showy personalities on TBN.

But to judge evangelicals by watching a few minutes of TBN is like judging all athletes based on watching a few minutes of WWE.

There are serious evangelical thinkers whose work isn't difficult to find.

How many of these people, who do not hesitate to insult and dismiss a significant minority population of the nation*, have ever sat through a single service in an evangelical church? Anyone can listen to services online, though doing so does not allow one to mingle with the people attending the services, so one can still listen to the services while still assuming that everyone in attendance is a freak. How about listening to something from Chuck Swindoll or John MacArthur? How about reading just one issue of First Things, Touchstone, or the Christian Research Journal (go ahead and highlight the factually incorrect statements, the logical fallacies, and the unsubstantiated claims and tweet them)? How many of these people have ever bothered to read or listen to anything by any of the following when addressing what they believe and why, and what it means for how they live:

William Lane Craig
J.P. Moreland
Gary Habermas
Chuck Colson
Francis Beckwith
Greg Koukl
R.C. Sproul
Hugh Hewitt
Nancy Pearcey
Joni Eareckson Tada
Francis Schaffer
Josh McDowell
Frank Turek
Dinesh D'Souza
William Dembski
Hugh Ross
Peter Kreeft
Paul Copan
Max Lucado
N.T. Wright

All of these writers have their critics, of course, but will any of these famous people who so casually shout their disdain for the intellectual capacity of evangelicals please name which one of those listed is or was uneducated, illogical, or stupid? Which of them are hypocrites, hateful, or reject the scientific method as a way of gaining knowledge? Don't merely make assertions based on what someone else tells you; go to the source.

"Evangelical" is certainly not antintellectual, antireason, or antiscience. What makes someone an evangelical Christian? Generally, our beliefs can be boiled down to what is found in these three creeds, and we believe the Bible to be the authority in how to have a relationship with Jesus Christ and be His disciples, we believe in serving others, and we believe in making disciples through proclaiming and defending the Gospel. We don't leave our faith in the pews six and a half days out of the week or only mention it during certain holidays, at our weddings, or at funerals - rather, we try to live by our faith in every aspect of our lives. How does any of that imply we don't think?

I'm an evangelical because of thinking, not because a lack of thinking. The Bible, and the leaders from whom I've learned, have encouraged people to use their minds – to be reasonable and use sound judgment, to discern truth from error; I'm to love God with all of my mind. Christianity is the only major religion that depends on events that either happened in history or they didn't; we are called to believe because those things happened, not to just believe blindly, or because of a feeling.

I have taken comparative religion courses. I graduated from a secular university after attending schools teaching anything but evangelical teachings for my entire formal education. It's not that evangelicals have ignored or irrationally dismissed what our critics have said. I'm barraged with assertions and claims that run counter to my beliefs many times every day, whether in the media or via social networking or anywhere out in public. Every Easter and Christmas season, we can expect another round of television broadcasts and features in periodicals that claim to debunk some core Christian belief or popular Biblical account.

Dear critics and mockers, we hear you and read you constantly. You're unavoidable. We've studied other faith traditions and claims. We have read the arguments of atheists. We've heard your claims of alleged fatal contradictions in the Bible, forgery and plagiarism, your assertion that miracles could never have happened, your claims that the God of the Bible is cruel, evil, or otherwise lacking. We've heard it all, and we'll keep hearing it.

We have thought things through, and we have arrived at a reasonable faith.

I don't automatically think that all Wiccans, Muslisms, observant Jews, people who identify as Christians but not evangelical, secular humanists, atheists, agnostics, New Agers, Buddhists, Hindus, or others are stupid or ignorant, or that they don't think. Why are there so many people like McKean that dismiss evangelicals as thoughtless?

Go ahead, Mr. McKean - why don't you try calling up Greg Koukl while he is doing his radio show, and expose him for the thoughtless man he must be. I'd love to hear that. Better yet, ask to join him in studio. I challenge you, and anyone else who thinks that evangelicals are not serious, careful thinkers, to do some reading and listening, attend some classes at a school like Biola, or otherwise see what serious evangelicals have to say. You might be a little more respectful, and enjoy some diversity while you're at it.

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*About 40% of Americans have identified as born-again or evangelical Christians. (Anyone who follows the true Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is born-again and a Christian, so the terms are redundant.) And yet how often have we heard that these Christians are just like the Islamofascist terrorists? The mocking of such Christians and their beliefs demonstrates the comparison to be ridiculous and slanderous, as I have yet to see Christians rioting, doing suicide bombings, and doing decapitations on webcams in response to the mocking.

Fascist Constitutionphobes and Religiophobes Hope You Won't Read

Have you heard about the legislation recently passed by the Arizona legislature? Have you heard that it is "anti-gay"? Do you know the name of the legislation? Have you even bothered to read it? It's not very long or hard to find. I easily found it here. It is SB 1062.

The way the marriage neutering and homosexuality advocates have been engaging in their dramatic whining and over-the-top theatrics, and the way so many of their repeaters in the MSM have called it "anti-gay", you'd think the legislation authorizes people to hunt down homosexual people where they live and burn down their homes.

Go ahead and search through the text.

You won't find one mention of any of the following words or phrases:

gay
lesbian
homosexual
sexual orientation
same-sex
heterosexual

You won't find euphemisms for those words or phrases, either.

What you will find is that the core language of the legislation is:

"STATE ACTION shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion..."

However, there are some very important and sizable exceptions:

"In furtherance of a compelling governmental interest."
"The least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest."

More core language:

"A person whose religious exercise is burdened in violation of this section may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding..."

Again, there are some very important and sizable exceptions.

What is the big deal?

This seems to me like this is an application basic rights - rights specifically enumerated in the First Amendment.

If we consider this in the context of recent government actions, then this would appear to be a reaction to recent cases involving bakers and photographers who have opted out of participation in events that have offended their consciences and sincerely and strongly held religious convictions that have a long, public, mainstream, and widespread tradition and can be informed by a basic reading of Scripture. These businesspeople have been sued or prosecuted by their own government. These situations have also been misportrayed as the someone "refusing to serve gay people". I recall that one baker in particular had gladly served the homosexual people in question on different occasions. It was only when the baker was asked to participate in a specific event, a same-sex "wedding" ceremony, that the baker declined. Still, some people might insist that such a denial was "anti-gay". However, I can demonstrate that it wasn't. The same baker would have refused if two heterosexual women had asked for the baker to participate in their "wedding".

Notice that the legislation does not mention such professions or events. The legislation could apply to many other things that have nothing to do with what homosexual people do with each other.

So why is it being called "anti-gay"?

I can think of two reasons right now.

1) Leftist homosexuality advocates are malignant narcissists. Everything in the world has to be about their orgasms. They see the entire world through their genitals and anal openings. Other people are to be judged by whether or not they think it is just groovy that one man likes to stick it in another man's anus. They have some bizarre fixation on what other people think about their private bedroom (or public restroom) behavior. Legislation is to be evaluated by whether or not it will encourage one man to stick it in another man's anus, or whether or not it empowers or celebrates such men nor not.

2) Homofascists want to reorganize all of society around their feelings, including the practice of religion, and anything that exempts anyone from being under the control of homofascists is labeled "anti-gay". That would mean they are getting so upset because they fully intend to use the force of government to force everyone, even the deeply religious, to celebrate homosexual behavior.

Whatever happened to "leave us alone"? Now that's not enough. Now they seek you out, quiz you, and if your answers aren't right you're facing a trip to economic Siberia.

Even if you disagree with the legislation, the hysterics from the Leftist homosexuality advocates, and the lockstep following of low information voters should concern you. Really, if signed into law and implemented, how would this law hurt a single homosexual person? Someone might ask a baker for a "wedding" cake with two grooms on top of it. The baker would say "Can't do it." Then the homosexual person could go to another baker. Who got hurt? Judging from the circus-like response to the legislation, there would be plenty of other people willing to participate in the "wedding" by making a cake. Comparisons to Jim Crow do not hold up. Jim Crow included government-enforced blanket segregation based on skin color. This would be a business, not government, deciding they could not participate in an event.

Is such legislation Constitutional? I don't see how it isn't. It is essentially a building upon the First Amendment.

Will it actually be implemented if signed into law? Don't count on it.

As we're seeing repeatedly, the Constitution doesn't matter. The Executive Branch is under the control of Leftist homosexuality advocates who do not believe in letting states handle their own matters or being bound by existing legislation, and they have more and bigger guns than Arizona. Don't kid yourself. That's all it boils down to these days. Even if Arizona refuses to prosecute a baker for being true to their faith, Obama's Department of Justice will.

UPDATE:

A question opponents of Arizona SB1062 don't seem able to answer: What is the objectionable text in the bill?

Parting With Bias at the Red Sea

Every once in a while – usually around Christmas, Easter, Passover, or some other Jewish or Christian holiday – we get MSM stories that report that research shows some Biblical miracle can be explained by known natural processes. In this case, it was the parting of the Red Sea - again. This is usually done to promote a book or television show.

What is fascinating is that there is often assumption that God could not have performed a miracle, and no matter what, the conclusion will lead there.

The first way this is exhibited is usually by denying that what the Bible records ever happened in the first place.

But if someone posits a series of conditions that could have possibly happened as a result of natural processes, then that is supposed to mean that the occurrence recorded in the Bible could not have been a miracle of God.

It's heads I win, tails you lose.

It's an atheistic bias.

However, if God exists, He can certainly perform miracles. And if God performs miracles, there's no reason why He can't perform a miracle that has some parallel in nature. People recover from disease, but that doesn't mean that God can't heal someone miraculously. Turning water into wine instantly is a miracle, even though grapevines do the same thing… slowly.

People are certainly free to deny the existence of God, or categorically deny His involvement in history. But let's not deny when an atheistic bias is at work.

The Religious Right- an American Reaction, Not an Imposition

The Left loves to portray the Religious Right as some insidious, extreme, relatively new influence that foisted itself upon America, when, in fact, the Religious Right (RR) arose as a response to organized and extremist Leftist activism that sought to reshape America and Western civilization. These people in the RR organized to conserve the culture – the traditions, institutions, morals, ideals, and standards – that they saw as worth conserving.  There would be no organized Religious Right if it weren’t for things like Roe v. Wade and other landmark court decisions.

Leftist activists, atheists, parental authority subverters, abortion pushers, those who despise masculinity in men and femininity in women, and decadent hedonists had organized and were exerting influence from within and over politics, media, academia, corporate America, and even churches. Their tactics included undermining parental authority, reducing church influence in the public square, and reducing self-discipline with the ultimate goal, apparently, of transferring reliance on self, family, and church to reliance on the state, thus making it easier to spread the costs of malignant narcissistic hedonism to society at large while disarming that society's ability to reinforce traditional behavioral constraints. In practical terms, this meant bringing homosexuality out of the bedroom and into every aspect of life and denying heterosexuality as the norm or as qualitatively different from homosexuality. This meant denying the differences in the sexes. This meant immodesty in attire and behavior. This meant men and women abdicating their restraints, roles, and responsibilities. This meant removing reminders that our nation was founded by Christians. This meant ridiculing and ostracizing the devout.

The results have not been good.  Judging from what their activists are saying, radical feminists, homosexuality advocates, and atheists are still feeling uncomfortable, insecure, excluded, oppressed, and offended. So, according to them, their goals have not been realized. Meanwhile, the negative effects from the changes have touched every area of our lives.

Easy access to contraception and abortion was going to provide us with guilt-free and consequence-free sex, and make sure that no child would be born into an abusive situation or into poverty. Didn’t happen.

Shacking up was going to make sure that people only got married if they were right for each other and ready. Didn’t happen.

Instead, we had an explosion of STDs, including AIDS, and divorce. Too many people can no longer clearly see the difference between real marriage and counterfeits. We have more broken homes. Children are being abused, neglected, or primarily raised by a series of strangers and exposed to an endless line "surrogate parents" (their parents' sex partners). Newborn babies are being thrown into dumpsters even where there is easy access to abortion and where babies can be surrendered safely with no strings attached in the first 72 hours after birth. Human beings are being treated like commodities. There has been an increase in the diagnoses of emotional, social, and behavioral disorders. And, surprise – there has been increased dependence on federal government.

While the past was never perfect, the present results of Leftist activism has made many things worse. Even as people didn’t always live by their ideal morals, it was understood that sexuality was a private matter, that sex was best saved for marriage, that men and women were different and should be able to socialize as groups and raise boys to be masculine men and girls to be feminine women, that children were best raised within a marriage, and that parents should be supported in childrearing instead of undermined. The Christian aspects of our national heritage were acknowledged and respected, even though everyone knew that non-Christians and even non-theists were a part of our society, too. Commercial entertainment was sought after to inspire and reinforce good, not feed off of and push our lusts.

The thing about the Left trying to disarm the Religious Right by trying to herd evangelicals into their corner is… the result, if they were to succeed, would be ugly. Even more churches would fail to be salt and light to the world. Higher taxes and inefficient government bureaucracy would be seen as a replacement for private charity.

One of the frequent criticisms of the RR is that they are intolerant and want to control the bedrooms of other people. My experience has been that most in the RR simply want what goes on in the bedroom to stay in the bedroom and for people to accept the consequences of their private actions. While they condemn what they think is negative deviance, that is not the same thing as being intolerant.

Meanwhile, the Left wants even more control over your wallet, your closet, your workplace, your home, your lightbulbs, your shopping bags, your investments, your dinner table, your children, your car, and your speech.

If the RR were to die, the results would be very bad. Thankfully, it hasn't died. But the Left will keep dreaming.

My State of the Unions 2014 Wish List

I know most of these positions will be completely avoided by President Obama, never mind that they wouldn't have a chance of being implemented with the current Senate, even with a Republican POTUS.  But permit me to dream. Also notice that with most of these, I'm calling on the President to encourage action by the people, not to use the force of law.

Explain That the Federal Government Is Not the Answer to Every Challenge, Problem, or Choice - Rather, it is the Last Resort Answer to Very Few. That is what freedom and liberty are all about.  Challenge individuals, businesses, congregations, nonprofits, and local and state governments (where appropriate) to take action instead of relying on the federal government. The federal government is there to protect the union from foreign threats and to and resolve some disputes between states.

Tout the Successes of the War on Terror. Laud those military, intelligence, and law enforcement personnel who have uncovered and prevented terrorist plans and actions, pointing out that is has been over twelve years since terrorists have carried out a major attack in the U.S. Apologize for Benghazi and what happened in the wake of that terrorist attack.

Border Control Is a Matter of National Security. Explain that allow illegal aliens any advantage in gaining permanent legal status ahead of legal immigrants is a slap in the face to legal immigrants and naturalized citizens. Announce that, effective immediately, the National Guard will secure our borders to prevent terrorists, disease-carriers, and smugglers from entering the U.S. They will stay there until suitable barriers and checkpoints are constructed – however long that takes. We will NOT encourage further invasion by offering amnesty, health insurance, and other tax-funded benefits for citizens of other countries who illegally enter/stay in the U.S. Speed up the process for legal immigration for those who want to come to the U.S. legally to become citizens and can find sponsors who will ensure they will stay off of public assistance. As for illegal aliens currently living in the United States – do not offer amnesty; they can go through the same channels of those who are trying to immigrate legally. If the border is secure, this problem will eventually take care of itself because their children born here are citizens and the illegals can continue to function as they have until they die off, if they don't want to go the legal route. Any illegal alien who serves honorably in the U.S. armed forces should be granted citizenship. If a true shortage of labor occurs (meaning American unemployment is low and employers need more temporary labor), a true guest worker program can be developed.

Break the Street Gangs. Pledge federal agencies to assist state and local law enforcement "sweep and hold" gang-infested urban areas.

Encourage Responsible Gun Ownership. As it is the duty of every able person to stand up to evil & crime in protection of the innocent, responsible gun ownership, training, and practice should be encouaged, and state and local laws should allow for this. Apologize for Fast & Furious.

Declare the Growing National Debt Unacceptable. Explain that it is a basic function of the federal government to adopt a budget, and that it is unsustainable and immoral to accumulate increasing debt, thereby burdening future generations. The government should not encourage further dependency on government.

Don't be Santa Claus. NO BAILOUTS FOR FAILED (= Democrat) CITIES! Don't propose new federal programs and expansions of existing federal social programs. Enough already. There are 50 states in the union and a few territories that are supposed to be handling their own matters – that is, the matters that are not supposed to be left up to "the people".

Stop Using the Tax Code For Social Engineering. Tell the Congress that instead of taking the carrots (taxes) from the people and then dangling some of them back in front of the people, that the people should keep their carrots in the first place and do with them what they will. Call for tax simplification and a move away from income/payroll taxes. If someone pays taxes, everyone should pay taxes.

Individuals Should Plan for the Future. Talk about the numerous options individuals and families have for saving for the future. Encourage them to save and invest for the future and not rely on the federal government to take care of them in their senior years. Point out that a reduction in federal spending will allow people to keep more of their own money to aid in saving for retirement.

Explain that Planning for Your Health Care is Part of Planning for the Future. Call for more freedom, competition, and private decision-making in health care. "Reform"  Obamacare.

Equal Access to Free Markets. Explain some of the major benefits of free markets, and that the best thing the federal government can do to foster a good business climate that provides jobs is to provide protection from interstate crime and foreign terrorists, and to be involved as little as possibly in voluntary employment and business transactions, not picking winners or losers in business, subsidizing some and restricting upstarts while protecing established businesses.

Property Rights and Personal Freedom. Most Americans understand that people should be considered as individuals and based on their behavior and abilities, not as members of a non-ideological group (ethnicity, etc.). Therefore, the federal government should no longer be involved in preventing people from renting, selling - or not - to whomever they choose for whatever reason, and should no longer be involved with who an employer hires and fires and why. Airlines, for example, should not be forced to carry anyone who makes the majority of their employees and passengers uncomfortable. It is clear that people can succeed in the USA regardless of skin color, sex, or sexual orientation, and focusing on slights, imagined or real, based on these personal characteristics, is fostering hostility and division and self-defeating thinking, doing more harm than good.

Encourage private innovation and solutions to reducing reliance on terrorist oil.

Education Is a Private Responsibility. Given the state of American public education since the Carter administration, call for the dismantling of federal involvement in education.

Strong Marital Unions Are Good For the Union. It brings together both sexes to raise the next generation of citizens. Men and women are different, and unifying them in the marital union forms a strong, inclusive building block for society, benefiting the individuals and society. Call on the Federal government to help by continuing to affirm, as Presidents Clinton and Bush did, that marriage unites a man and a woman, and pledge that the federal government will not force states to recognize counterfeit marriages. Encourage people to voluntarily take marriage seriously, thinking for the long term, getting good pre-marital counseling - and counseling during marriage as necessary. Encourage individuals, families, congregations, businesses, and the media to respect and value marriage, and support marriages instead of undermining them. Encourage individuals to save sex and childrearing for marriage, because doing so is good for them and good for the country.

Encourage Proven Conservation Techniques. Quote the scientists and activists who, in the 1970s, warned that we were heading for a new ice age, and quote those who said that by 2000, the rainforests and the oceans would be destroyed. Go on to say that we must not hastily and uncritically accept alarmist warnings and use federal government force to impose destructive restrictions on the people and business that may not result in significant environmental benefit.

Civility. Call on partisans to vigorously debate the issues, but refrain from threats of violence and character assassination, as they renew their vow to defend the Constitution.

Remembering Reverend King

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Christian Reverend who constantly appealed to Christian principles in calling for this nation to follow Christ in treating every person as a worthwhile human being, regardless of skin color. He did a lot of good for this country.

May character matter more than skin color, and racists repent.

Time For Education to Evolve

Maybe you've heard of a recent poll about how a significant percentage of the American population "rejects evolution". I'm wary of polls, especially in the matter of origins, because the same words mean different things to different people. Anyway, it reminded of this piece I wrote many years back:

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Every once in a while, the elites in the scientific circles give a "reminder" to the elites in the academic circles, and the drive-by media barely touches on the story. The portrayal of the story comes across as simply something along the lines of "Don't teach religion in science classes" and that "Evolution is true, and anything that sounds a little different is bogus."

This is happening again right now.

The problem is that the news media stories are too short to fully describe the situation and to define terms. This latest round referred to a report that seemingly stressed how we need to educate students in a way that will allow them to effectively fight mutating diseases, and that's why we have to present a unified philosophical naturalism in science curriculum in order to do that.

When the term "evolution" is used, it needs to be defined.  Are we talking microevolution?  Are we talking macroevolution?  Are we talking philosophical naturalism, which is a philosophy?  We we taking about homo sapiens emerging from  less advanced hominids?  Are we talking about living organisms arising from nonliving materials?

When using the term "creationism", do they mean young-earth Biblical creationism?  Do they mean the idea that something outside the universe could have been responsible for some things within the universe - Biblical God or not?  Defining "intelligent design" as synonymous with Biblical creationism does a disservice to students. While Biblical creation could be considered a form of intelligent design, not all intelligent design constructs fall within a straightforward interpretation of Biblical descriptions of origins.

The term "intelligent design" should not be banned from serious consideration in public schools.  We engage in intelligent design all of the time these days, such as with genetic engineering. Nor should the reality of "irreducible complexity" be ignored. While presenting macroevolution as true, the schools should at least boldly own the fact that "since" it is true, irreducibly complex organisms and systems must have therefore evolved via punctuated equilibrium, and that this phenomenon happened many, many times. All the interconnected parts must have emerged fully developed (or at least developed enough to provide a beneficial function) in an instant. So what if that would make philosophical naturalism seemed far-fetched? These are science classes, not philosophy classes, and we need to be true to the empirical evidence, right? Finally, both the major disputes between various evolutionary hypotheses and the serious unanswered questions about some or all of these constructs should also be presented.  After all, aren't we trying to inspire the students to move science forward?

I recall biology and life science curriculum up through high school to be mostly about the present-day functions of organisms and organs, life cycles, reproduction, and so forth. I hardly recall any teachings about mutating diseases. That belongs in higher education, it would seem. However, the reality of mutating diseases is in no way contradictory to supernaturalism, creationism, intelligent design, or irreducible complexity. In fact, mutating diseases fall right in line with many of their constructs. So, in theory, it would be entirely possible for a student to graduate from higher studies a creationist and still be effective at fighting mutating diseases.

So really, the latest hubbub seems to be pointless to me. And since I believe in separation of state and school, we really shouldn't need to spend so much time debating what should be taught in the schools.  Send your own children to the schools you think best. Keep your hands off of my children.

The Moral High Ground

It is immoral and counterproductive for the government to take money by force from one person or group of people and give it another unless the recipient is performing a Constitutionally assigned function or the function is otherwise a Constitutional mandate. - Personal Declaration of The Playful Walrus

Leftists want everyone to believe that people like me want poor people to die painful deaths in the streets, because people like me oppose unconstitutionally expanding federal government powers, higher income and capital gains tax rates, and paying for new programs with either increased debt or printing more money (which devalues the dollar).

Charity can't do it all, our Leftists friends say. But the fact is, this side of eternity, nobody can do it all.

Private, voluntary efforts could certainly do a lot more if the government eased up on micromanaging and let people keep more of their own earnings. With just about anything, private, voluntary efforts are more efficient than federal government. This is why the Constitution gives the federal government limited powers, and tells the federal government what it can do, not only what it can't do. Want a huge new federal program to fight "poverty", despite the spectacular failure of those that came before? Pass a Constitutional Amendment. The Constitution isn't there just to make sure you can pee all over The Bible and call it art.

Our Leftist friends what to confiscate, with guns draw if it comes to that, that for which people have worked, and give it to people who choose not to work, or to make unwise decisions about finances. That is immoral.

I want to help the needy. That is why I give to voluntary efforts. More of my Leftist friends could do the same if they worked harder and were better with what they earned. Leftist Billionaires can already give their money away, to charity or the U.S. Treasury, if they want to.

With Ambassadors Like These...

Do you consider yourself a Christian? A follower of Christ? Do you believe the Bible to have Divine inspiration? If so, then you should know that we are called to ambassadors for Him. With that in mind, consider the following comment left by Anonymous after my entry responding to a popular perception of Evangelical Christians...

(Anyone who follows the true Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is born-again and a Christian, so the terms are redundant.)

In your eyes. As usual, the evangelical think they are the saved ones, they are the true Christians, they are the ones who have the 'real' word of God. Everyone else is hell bound. My father's family was pentecostal evangelical, my mother's family was Mormon. The Mormon family NEVER ONCE put down my evangelical family. My Mormon family NEVER ONCE made me feel less than, unholy, going to some hell, and all the other crap the evangelicals did EVERY time I saw them. Yes, every time we got around the pentecostals they berated my Mormon family, told us they, the Mormons were hell bound, itchy ears, etc. The Bible says by their fruits you shall know them. If that's the case the Mormons are going to heaven and will be near to God and the pentecostals will burn in that hell that they LOVE sending others to who do not think like them. My Mormon family members had more love in one little finger than all the pentecostals put together. My parents didn't take us children to church, and when we went to see the pentecostals we were treated with quiet contempt and they didn't like us around our cousins. When we visited the Mormons we were loved, cherished and made to feel so very welcome. Never once did the Mormons make us feel less than. To this day I avoid the pentecostals for their hatred and judgmental attitude that stinks to high heaven. Oh, I forgot, don't touch my anointed. THAT is what the pentecostals will see when they read this. They are so stuck on themselves they truly think they are the ones in line with God. I spent years as an adult in the evangelical churches and it was the grace of God that DELIVERED me from ALL OF THAT and I will never sit foot in one of those churches again. Ever. I would rather burn in the hell they send us all to then go near them again. And, of course, they are saying, then so be it, hell is where you will go. Idiots. 

Thank you, Anonymous, for your comment. I think it is a very important one, expressing feelings that have been felt by many people.

I'm going to assume your perceptions and memories are accurate. I have no reason to think otherwise, and I apologize for the treatment you received by people misrepresenting Christ.

I stand by my statement: Anyone who follows the true Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is born-again and a Christian.

Priorities

I wonder how many members of PETA support a legally-protected "right" to rip apart innocent human beings in abortion mills? I can't take anyone seriously who cares more about injuries and quality-of-life for orcas and elephants than protecting innocent human beings who are not posing a serious threat to anyone else from being slaughtered by the thousands, legally, every day.

I have priorities.

End elective abortions, then come back to me with your pleas to let the orcas and elephants deal with natural disasters on their own, without vet care.

A Stinking Cup of Joe

Fascism thrives on propaganda, and there's no shortage of propagandists for homofascism. Most people who engage in homosexuality are not fascists, but plenty of homosexuality advocates behave like fascists.

Notice that for many years, homosexuality advocates touted the importance of "tolerance". They've largely stopped doing that, because now they they've gained so much power, they don't plan on tolerating anyone who does not publicly cheer private homosexual behaviors. What tolerance really means is allowing for disagreement. You don't tolerate things you like or agree with. You tolerate things you disagree with or don't like instead of trying to force eradication of those things. The way homosexuality advocates used the word was quite different - they used to mean liking, promoting, or celebrating homosexual behavior. They portrayed any disagreement with homosexual behavior or any conviction that homosexual behavior was qualitatively different than heterosexual behavior in any way other than superior as being akin to murdering people.

One popular and acclaimed homosexuality propagandist is this Dog My Joe! character. I want to point out exactly how he operates. Quite often, he'll use unflattering images of his targets along with the twisted text, and use disparaging, childish nicknames as well. He headlined an entry at his blog today as such:

Tony Perkins: Gays Should Not Be On TV

Now, is that really what Tony Perkins said? As you'll see, it is not. Truth doesn't seem to be important to Joe, however.

He ran this quote by Perkins:

"When Gallup asked people to guess how many Americans were homosexual, most said 25%. Turns out, they were about 22% off. And while gays and lesbians make up about 3.4% of the population, they seem to get 100% of the consideration when producers write and cast new television shows. The debate over same-sex 'marriage' has been perfectly scripted by Hollywood. Television shows are full of lovable gay characters, whose dangerous lifestyle is just another funny footnote. Unfortunately for America, those make-believe people are having a real-life impact. It's no accident that almost 20% of Americans credit television with changing their minds on same-sex 'marriage.' It's time for families to let networks know that what they gain by being pro-homosexual doesn't compare with what they'll lose. And that's viewers."

Where did Perkins say that gays should not be on TV? He didn't. Perkin accurately describes the reality of television these days. By the data presented by established, respected mainstreamed homosexuality advocacy organizations, homosexuality is overrepresented on television, and portrayals of homosexual behavior or people who identify as homosexual are overwhelmingly sympathetic, positive, and present Leftism and marriage neutering advocacy as the expected priorities of such people. You'd never know from watching television that there are homosexual people with principled opposition to the neutering of marriage, or at least doing so by judicial activism (Joe, to his credit, does run quotes by homosexual people who oppose marriage neutering). You'd never know that homosexuality correlates to higher rates of domestic violence, substance abuse, STDs (at least with males), or mental illness.

You'd also never know what many homosexual people have noted, that general fascism and homosexuality have had a symbiotic relationship. So none of this is merely a coincidence. Homofascists are part of a movement that pushes to sexualize children as early as possible, and part of the Leftist tendency to make everything political. Note I did not say "homosexuals are pedophiles". Of course, some are, just like some heterosexuals are pedophiles. I'm talking about an activist movement. Homofascists take statements by individuals, often made in response to questions by proxies of homofascists if not homofascists themselves, that extol the ideal of uniting a bride and groom (marriage), or saving sex for marriage, or modesty, or decorum, as unacceptable utterances making that person and their business, employer, enterprise, livelihood the targeted or relentless attacks.

Joe attributes the quote this way:

- Hate group leader Tony Perkins, via email.

"Hate group"? Where has Perkins or his organization ever promoted hated? Ah, but there's a Leftist victicrat group that has labeled them as such. You see how that words? A Leftist group pronounces those who disagree with them as haters. Other Leftists run with name-calling, as if the Leftist group's name-calling makes it true.

Here are the tags Joe attached to this entry (remember, it is his language, not mine):

assholery, bigotry, Christianists, crackpots, FRC, hate groups, religion, television, Tony Perkins

Fascists like to portray opponents as extremists or insane. They also like to portray anyone complaining about their tactics as whiners.

What Neutering Marriage Did to Massachusetts

It's the state with the longest time of having marriage licenses neutered.

Getting Hairy in Hendersonville

Todd Starnes has a column at Townhall about an apparently lack of separation of mosque and state:

A Tennessee high school has decided to revise its field trip policy after a group of freshmen were taken to an Islamic mosque where they were given copies of the Koran and while a student who opted out of the trip was given a worksheet that alleged Muslims treated their conquered people better than the United States treated minorities.

The students were in an honors world studies class at Hendersonville High School and the field trips to the mosque as well as a Hindu temple were part of a three-week course on world religions.

But some parents objected to the trips and wondered why the school would tour a mosque but not a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue.

Because there is a war against Judeo-Christian values.

During their visit to the Hindu temple, students engaged in meditation.

Prayer in school?

Taxpayer-funded schools run by "secular" government might have made sense back on the day when we had more homogenous, isolated communities and we didn't have the networked, interactive communications systems we have now. It is a different world now, and instead of the federal government taking a larger and larger role in education, we need saparation of state and school. This is just one of many reasons why.

I'm an evangelical Christian. I have no problem with the idea of students visiting a mosque and getting a Koran. EXCEPT, we KNOW the ACLU and the like would freak out of the students were taken to a Christian church and given Bibles. But quibbling about these things is like arguing about the deck chairs while the Titanic sinks. Take your children out of the government schools, and vote against funding them.

When A Murderer, Rapist, or Molester Commits Suicide

So Ariel Castro, who kidnapped and held three young women for many years, raping, beating, and otherwise terrorizing them, killed himself.


Ideally, he would have:

• realized the enormity of his evils
• accepted blame
• repented
• thrown himself on the mercy of the Lord
• begged forgiveness from Jesus, the victims, their families, the greater Cleveland area, and the State of Ohio
• spent the rest of his days doing everything he could to "repay" his victims & helping law enforcement figure out how to prevent crimes like his and find/rescue victims sooner.

But... killing himself was the second best outcome.

I know there are people who think we should not be anything but saddened that he killed himself, but those people have screwed up priorities and a deficient grasp of reality.

I generally oppose suicide, but for someone who murders, rapes, or attacks children, it is better that they kill themselves if the alternative is more crime on their part or being cared for by taxpayers